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  1. Alan Powers

    I am surprised that lady rochford got involved with these affairs having seen the execution of both her husband and her sister in law ann Boleyn some years before I can only think that she thought she was getting her own back regarding the death of her husband although her own marriage was not a good one she must have realised she had put her own life in danger

  2. Paulinejoan

    I hate the way Henry treated people. When I read about these things, I find it difficult to put myself in a mindset of the time, judging it now it is all so wrong on many levels. It wasn’t just Henry everybody was cruel and used power wrongly. If they knew how we felt now they wouldn’t believe it.. I always think it was Devine retribution the Tudors died out with Elizabeth.

    • Alan Powers

      he was not a man you want to argue with but you are right there were many cruel people around then makes you feel lucky you was not alive in those days

    • Lynn Sabin

      I’m frequently compelled to admonish my students to avoid judging our predecessors through contemporary eyes.

      I make no particular defense of Henry VIII, but it’s important to understand that Katherine Howard was guilty of much more than mere adultery. She was queen, a potential bearer of Henry’s children, possibly a successor to the crown. As such, an adulterous queen was a grave threat to the line of success and, thus, the welfare and good order of the realm. Her actions were particularly egregious and, by default, so were those who engaged with or supported her.

      What is more important, Henry’s subjects, for the most part, expected their monarch to exact swift, and if necessary, brutal justice as a means of maintaining order and discipline. Only a century later, English writer and philosopher Thomas Hobbes comments on the requirement for such justice in his book, Leviathan. In part, he writes:

      “In [nature] there is no place for industry, because the fruit thereof is uncertain, and consequently no culture of the earth, no navigation nor the use of commodities that may be imported by sea, no commodious building, no instruments of moving and removing such things as require much force, no knowledge of the face of the earth, no account of time, no arts, no letters, no society, and which is worst of all, continual fear and danger of violent death, and the life of man, solitary, poor, nasty, brutish, and short.”

      Again, I’m offering no particular defense for Henry, but many actions, for which we judge him harshly, were the order of the day, however brutal they may appear today.

      • Jennifer

        I agree wholeheartedly. When we start to judge those that went before us with brutality and unfairness I often wonder how our times will be judged hundreds of years in our futures.

    • Margaret Watts

      Died out with Elizabeth I is right. The “Yorks” , the little princes should have been the heirs or Edward or Margaret Plantagenet/Pole. . Just deserves for Henry’s horrible bloody reign. His desperate seed ceased to be.

    • Margaret Harradine

      Died out with Elizabeth I is right. The “Yorks” , the little princes should have been the heirs or Edward or Margaret Plantagenet/Pole. . Just deserves for Henry’s horrible bloody reign. His desperate seed ceased to be.

  3. Janelle

    The one thing that drives me crazy is the general hypocrisy of it all. I know it was just the time period but I find it ridiculous that they killed women for adultery while men were welcome to have mistresses and cheat.

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